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Report as: spam offensive My view on Stanford on 5/30/07 at 3am

I think the negligence of Stanford students this year (two suicides, two impostors making it on campus for significant amount of time) should show people that Stanford is not a great place to come if you don't have a strong support system before you come here. (Plenty of people have a support system and are therefore happy and successful, but for the unlucky few who don't read the following carefully.) In my opinion, people here won't look out for you unless you can help them is some way. (This is not a universal statement about pepole at Stanford, there are a few kind souls.) More nurturing and caring envirnments do exist elsewhere.

Report as: spam offensive Bill King on 5/30/07 at 4am

Support system?

College is a time where kids are supposed to learn to grow up and take care of themselves. You don't have your folks doing your laundry, cooking meals and waking you up for school.

Accept responsibility for your actions, you're old enough (18) to vote, sign contracts and go to war. If you're not 18, you soon will be.

The Kim girl has some serious issues to deal with and growing up is one of them. I wish her the best of luck, she's going to need it.

Report as: spam offensive Re: My view on Stanford on 5/30/07 at 4am

You can keep posting that comment on every Azia Kim article, but that doesn't make it true. Stanford does an awesome job of trying to make sure no one falls through the cracks, but inevitably a few will. Two suicides in a year is an unfortunate statistical blip. I'm not trying to trivialize their deaths, especially since I knew one of them, but you can't jump to these types of conclusions based on isolated situations. Okazaki has nothing to do with this, and Azia Kim DID have a support system. She had plenty of friends and acquaintances, they just didn't know her whole story. Also, if you're trying to conceal the fact that you're not a student, you're not going to use the resources Stanford has to help people. That would just draw more attention.

Report as: spam offensive Dan on 5/30/07 at 4am

God help you if have conservative beliefs. You will be ostracized. The support you cam in with may not be enough.

Report as: spam offensive It's old now on 5/30/07 at 9am

Way too much coverage!

Report as: spam offensive Dan? on 5/30/07 at 10am

Where did Dan's comment come from? That's random. Where did conservativism come in this editorial or comment board?

Report as: spam offensive re:My view on Stanford on 5/30/07 at 10am

2 suicides in a community of 17,747 undergrads and graduate students is a suicide rate of 11.27 per 100000.
The national rate of suicide for this age group hovers between 11.5 and 13 per 100000. Considering that the Stanford community is skewed towards the higher sucide risk age group of 25-30 due to there being more grad students than undergrads, then the overall suicide rate is even lower than one would expect. Also, we're talking about 2 suicides here. 2! This number is so low that it can be thrown off very easily through 1 or 2 year blips. Each of these suicides are tragedies, but any given year with 2 or 3 suicides is no basis for making conclusions about Stanford, especially when the trend at Stanford is not that different than that of the whole population, and is in fact slightly better.
Sorry your time at Stanford is sucking. If you're really depressed, get some help. And stop blaming others for your problems and take control.
I loved Stanford, it was incredibly supportive. It was hard to make those support networks at Stanford, but I made them. You can't expect everything to be programmed for you in life.

Report as: spam offensive Actually: on 5/30/07 at 10am

There have been at least 5 and possibly 6 suicides since December.

Report as: spam offensive Sean Williams on 5/30/07 at 10am

Don't make any sence

Report as: spam offensive aa on 5/30/07 at 2pm

can someone enlighten us on the suicides, i haven't heard anything about them.

Report as: spam offensive To Dan: on 5/30/07 at 2pm

As a conservative student, I have never felt ostracized at Stanford. There are several conservative political clubs and the religious community is very strong and supportive. The liberal students at Stanford are willing to listen and engage in productive discussions. Do you even go here, or have you been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly?

Report as: spam offensive Dan on 5/30/07 at 7pm

I went there.

Report as: spam offensive Hooah on 5/31/07 at 5am

If Stanford would have allowed ROTC classes to get academic credit at Stanford, rather than being a pseudo-program outsourced to Santa Clara University, Azia Kim's deception would have been detected long ago.

Report as: spam offensive Negligence? on 6/01/07 at 2am

"I think the negligence of Stanford students this year (two suicides, two impostors making it on campus for significant amount of time) ..."

It's NEGLIGENT of students to commit suicide?

Report as: spam offensive Jon Miller on 6/03/07 at 9pm

"It's NEGLIGENT of students to commit suicide?"
I think it's pretty clear that the negligence refers to the students who allegedly don't pay attention to their classmates, to the degree that others commit suicide or put up a false front for months or years.
As far as the suicides that haven't been discussed, I think it's getting pretty close to a coverup on the part of the University. They don't want anyone to know and do they best to make it so.




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