As long as ROTC didn't require any university funding, they should be allowed to have a chapter on campus.

The military doesn't discriminate against anyone. They merely uphold the FEDERAL "don't ask, don't tell" law concering gays in the military, which was implemented under Clinton. These bans are about anti-military sentiment and nothing else. Too bad they will have the effect of creating the very elitism (i.e. only non-Ivy League college educated young people serving) in the military it's routinely accused of by its critics.

anything to keep this war going, right?

The Faculty Senate voted 38 to 6 On May 7, 1970, to end academic credit for ROTC courses effective August 31, 1970, because the courses did not meet the high standards of courses taught by faculty in Stanford departments, the courses were not open to all Stanford students, and the military (instead of Stanford) chose the faculty. President Kenneth Pitzer's Advisory Committee on ROTC Affairs then recommeded that the ROTC program be suspended and the Faculty Senate approved the committee's recommendation on June 4, 1970. The reasons for ending credit for ROTC courses have not changed in the past 37 years. Those who like to mention distinguished ROTC graduates forget that ROTC graduate Lt. William L. Calley, Jr., was convicted of the premeditated murder of 22 Vietnamese civilians in the March 16, 1968 My Lai masscre.

The Military is racist, rough, and brainwashed. We do not
need this in our schools. Kids should be taught to think in
this world, not follow blindly some fool with a gun.

Then perhaps ROTC is a program that every school needs. As stated above, the program should not only be associated with war and violence. The skills taught in ROTC go beyond the battlefield. Cadets are taught how to be excellent leaders, patient followers and outstanding citizens of this country. Soldiers are willing to do as they do because of the loyalty they are taught to have for the civilians of this country, millions of civilians they will never meet. If that doesn't have anything to do with "getting along with people" then what does? Perhaps one should at least research the program or sit in on a military science class before making such ignorant closed minded comments about it.

You will be surprised to find out how many of your direct civilian leaders throughout your entire life will be military trained, most of which you will have high respect for because of the respect and loyalty they will give to you.

For you idiots that believe that getting rid of ROTC is the correct decision, open your eyes before you open your mouth. I've been in the NJROTC program for 4 years now, and not ONCE have they said that it was okay to just grab a gun and kill people. It's not like that at all.

Think of it like this, there is a war that we are fighting, not because we felt like being ass holes and said, "Hey, let's screw up the Iraqi people because they're different." We were attacked, and we're making sure that they are contained. We are also helping govern their country, and of course, resistance will be met, but remember, WE NEVER SHOT FIRST.

The same concept in the ROTC program, we're not starting a war, we're not trying to force people into the military, we're not dictators trying to oppress you and your decision to try and "get rid of us." We are taking a leadership opportunity, and trying to make things better for ourselves, and most likely other people around us. Moreover, if there is any doubt in your mind about what you said, email me at slforce059@yahoo.com, I will always have an answer. (By the way, whenever someone first enters the program, I can be the first to say that they're not trying to recruit anyone. They may suggest it, but they'll never force you into doing something you don't want to do.)

Why the hell would Stanford be given the honor of having ROTC, fuck em